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Thursday, September 7th 2023
by T0@stDiscuss (78 Comments)
Six Intel 14th Gen Core Raptor Lake-S Refresh SKUs were prematurely listed by an e-tailer late last month, with the already leaked Core i9-14900K CPU model popping up again (a week later) via CPU-Z and Geekbench tests. This higher end K and KF product lineup is expected to launch at some point next month—according to the rumor mill. Team Blue could be preparing cheaper non-K models for an unveiling at CES 2024, but a leaker has decided to spoil the fun way in advance. YuuKi_AnS uploaded an allegedly extremely comprehensive list of 14th Gen SKUs, complete with full specifications to their X/Twitter handle. This grants an early glimpse of lowly Intel 300 and 300T models—both featuring a 2P+0E core configuration—these appear to be modern successors to (now retired) Pentium Gold and Celeron branded budget-friendly processor families.
It should be noted that the leaked slide (dated September 5) states that everything sitting within the table is a qualification sample (QS), therefore these chips are subject to change due to their pre-production nature. Parts of the table look a bit iffy—support for DDR5 memory varies across the range, while EEC memory support is also very inconsistent. Intel seems to be sticking with the usual set of three different die designs for desktop Raptor Lake Refresh CPUs—Tom's Hardware points out that: "the B0 die (8P-16E) powers SKUs from the Core i5-14600 and up, while the C0 (8P+8E) die targets models from Core i5-14400 to Core i5-14500T. On the contrary, the H0 (6P+0E) die, which is the lowest of the trio, will be inside the Intel 300 to Core i3-14100T chips."
Wccftech has kindly extracted and compiled the leaked info into an easier to read format. Price estimates are also included:
Projections have Raptor Lake Refresh coming in at a 15% premium over the preceding—13th Gen Core—product lineup.
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Seems like sub 14600 will remain at ADL gen for the cores (extrapolated from DDR5 speed support)
Well, its one way to finish the course of LGA1700.
Im really hoping i can get my hands on a new system soon and plop in a 14900K. Would be a huge upgrade over my 9900K.
That's quite a premium for the unlocked models. Not cool, Intel, not cool at all :(
Pointless annual release / refresh by intel to please their largest system builders. The sooner this trash comes out the quicker they can focus on meteor lake
Its so unnecessary for 5 different SKUs per chip tier, 14900K and 14900T would suffice.
MistandYorkIts so unnecessary for 5 different SKUs per chip tier, 14900K and 14900T would suffice.
Repurposed defective dies, nothig wrong with that. What doesn't make sense to me is the F SKUs. Why would I opt out of an IGP, which can be a life saver in case your GPU craps out, only to save $5-10?
This looks great! Although the cache could be a bit higher. It looks like that taking a i7 will be a solid choice with not to high tdp,
if the speed over previous generation is a bit tending to the positive wow nice line up
Hopefully Intel is more willing to distribute the non-K chips to reviewers this time. Trustworthy data on these things has been really lacking.
bugRepurposed defective dies, nothig wrong with that. What doesn't make sense to me is the F SKUs. Why would I opt out of an IGP, which can be a life saver in case your GPU craps out, only to save $5-10?
Because now they can sell a working CPU core with a defective iGPU instead of trashing it. I bought one F SKU for $80 less than I could find the full iCPU. Like everything else, it'll sell for the right price.
What's with the 14600+ F models lacking ECC supprt? Why is it tied to iGPU?
bugRepurposed defective dies, nothig wrong with that. What doesn't make sense to me is the F SKUs. Why would I opt out of an IGP, which can be a life saver in case your GPU craps out, only to save $5-10?
For example the difference between a 12100/F is ~40$ where I live and it was about the same when I've bought mine back in 2022, doesn't even make sense cause thats too close to a 12400F's price at that point.
The diff between 12400/F is only 15$ tho,that would be alright I guess so it also depends on the model.
Personally I have no use for the IGP, my last CPU with one was a i 3 4160 and I've never needed to use it.
I would rather buy some whatever cheap ~30$ second hand card and stash it away as an emergency card. 'and that card would be still faster than Intel's current integrated stuff'
MistandYorkIts so unnecessary for 5 different SKUs per chip tier, 14900K and 14900T would suffice.
The more models, the better they can bamboozle the consumer. Also, they need to sell every die their rubbish manufacturing process produces, no matter how defective.
TomorrowWhat's with the 14600+ F models lacking ECC supprt? Why is it tied to iGPU?
It's not, it's just arbitrary market segmentation. As usual.
SithaerFor example the difference between a 12100/F is ~40$ where I live and it was about the same when I've bought mine back in 2022, doesn't even make sense cause thats too close to a 12400F's price at that point.
The diff between 12400/F is only 15$ tho,that would be alright I guess so it also depends on the model.Personally I have no use for the IGP, my last CPU with one was a i 3 4160 and I've never needed to use it.
I would rather buy some whatever cheap ~30$ second hand card and stash it away as an emergency card. 'and that card would be still faster than Intel's current integrated stuff'
I've got an old 1050 as a backup and it's definitely saved me some money due to the fact that I can buy a non F SKU and not even worry. I've never needed it for any of my rigs (it did reside in the HTPC but that was its home before it became a backup) it has come in handy for 3 of my friends.
All CPU's need to support ECC by default. I dont understand why this isnt a thing.
bugWhat doesn't make sense to me is the F SKUs. Why would I opt out of an IGP, which can be a life saver in case your GPU craps out, only to save $5-10?
bugRepurposed defective dies, nothig wrong with that.
Yeah you answered it yourself there. ;)
CrAsHnBuRnXpIm really hoping i can get my hands on a new system soon and plop in a 14900K. Would be a huge upgrade over my 9900K.
I'd personally wait for its successor, or go for 13900K and save money.
To the rest of you: NO, I don't suggest waiting forever.
CrAsHnBuRnXpAll CPU's need to support ECC by default. I dont understand why this isnt a thing.
Intel loves their segmentation.
MatsI'd personally wait for its successor, or go for 13900K and save money.
That would mean another year of waiting. I dont want to do that if I can avoid it. My system is starting to show its age with certain titles at 4K.
ChippendaleThis looks great! Although the cache could be a bit higher. It looks like that taking a i7 will be a solid choice with not to high tdp,
if the speed over previous generation is a bit tending to the positive wow nice line up
Don't count on a not too high TDP, at least not by default. My 13700 non-K reaches or surpasses 290w package power on CB23 before thermal throttling. With 90°C limit things are better and it still scores like a stock 12900K.
CrAsHnBuRnXpThat would mean another year of waiting. I dont want to do that if I can avoid it. My system is starting to show its age with certain titles at 4K.
If your system is starting to show its age with certain titles at 4K it could be more GPU bound. Otherwise I agree, and even a I7 would indeed be a huge upgrade.
docnorthDon't count on a not too high TDP, at least not by default. My 13700 non-K reaches or surpasses 290w package power on CB23 before thermal throttling. With 90°C limit things are better and it still scores like a stock 12900K.If your system is starting to show its age with certain titles at 4K it could be more GPU bound. Otherwise I agree, and even a I7 would indeed be a huge upgrade.
Im running a 3080Ti.
docnorthIf your system is starting to show its age with certain titles at 4K it could be more GPU bound. Otherwise I agree, and even a I7 would indeed be a huge upgrade.
If we're talking about 4k, I agree.
CrAsHnBuRnXpThat would mean another year of waiting. I dont want to do that if I can avoid it. My system is starting to show its age with certain titles at 4K.
Fair point, but a 14900K makes zero sense over a 13900K if you're running at 4k.
Most of the time you'll be looking at FPS like this when comparing with a 13700K, a 14900K should be even less difference. This is even done with a 4090, so with a 3080 Ti you're even more GPU bound, if possible. Going from 14900K to 13700K saves you $300 right there, or maybe even more after launch.
CrAsHnBuRnXpIm running a 3080Ti.
Yeah it's on your specs and is still powerful. I can't say much about 4K, I'm on 1080p.
CrAsHnBuRnXpIm running a 3080Ti.
I don't think 9900K is holding you back though. The strides are in GPU. Or in cache (X3D). The only thing Intel will elevate for you is the maximums/averages, but barely the minimums which is where the fun is at. I'm running a faster GPU than you on 3440x1440 and with a slower CPU, I have no issues whatsoever because of CPU, there are only a tiny handful of games where I can really see GPU underperforming, and even then, I'm pushing north of 60 FPS.
Better off turning the idea around and upgrade that GPU first, and then see what's missing CPU wise. I kinda did that when upgrading to the 7900XT; I know quite precisely now what I stand to gain from a CPU upgrade.
CrAsHnBuRnXpThat would mean another year of waiting. I dont want to do that if I can avoid it. My system is starting to show its age with certain titles at 4K.
Sounds like a gpu upgrade is needed much more than a cpu upgrade . This platform is done for , lga 1700 goes away next year so no point in throwing too much money at it . Grab a mid range 13th gen chip and the most powerful gpu u can afford .
Frankly I’d go with an am5 platform for gaming but if you must have intel , I would not buy anything over a core i5 13600k for gaming because the gaming benefits especially at high res over an i5 are slim to none
HxxSounds like a gpu upgrade is needed much more than a cpu upgrade . This platform is done for , lga 1700 goes away next year so no point in throwing too much money at it . Grab a mid range 13th gen chip and the most powerful gpu u can afford .
Frankly I’d go with an am5 platform for gaming but if you must have intel , I would not buy anything over a core i5 13600k for gaming because the gaming benefits especially at high res over an i5 are slim to none
If I upgrade the GPU, I will have a CPU bottleneck.
Im running an i9 9900K @ 5GHz, 16GB RAM, Asus STRIX 3080Ti.
CrAsHnBuRnXpIf I upgrade the GPU, I will have a CPU bottleneck.Im running an i9 9900K @ 5GHz, 16GB RAM, Asus STRIX 3080Ti.
You would need both a cpu and a gpu upgrade (ram too) for 4k gaming but depends on which titles … I’m assuming latest AAA. I would figure out your budget and go from there
